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  Candace Conti Settles

  by Nitty-Gritty in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  hot topic on topix seems to be candace conti settlement.

  but it's all quiet here.

  are you guys aware that your hero, who was not in it for the money but to change policies, settled without changing anything?

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  Nitty said, "How do you know that WT do not base their judgement on what law enforcement has said about the perpetrator and on history of prosecution? What else do you think they can base their judgment on??? Logically??"

  Because the KS10 specifically states that if a convicted abuser is sentenced under a plea bargain, that does not constitute admission of guilt within the congregation when it has been established there are not "two witnesses".

  99% of these prosecutions do not reach trial and are settled through plea bargains.

  Again you are ill informed, delusional and have not the slightest depth of comprehension regarding the internal policies of Watchtower nor how investigation, prosecution and the rule in a court of law operates.

  
  
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  Candace Conti Settles

  by Nitty-Gritty in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  hot topic on topix seems to be candace conti settlement.

  but it's all quiet here.

  are you guys aware that your hero, who was not in it for the money but to change policies, settled without changing anything?

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  Nitty said, " Elders will advise parents to go to the police if they themselves are not mandated to report."

  
  

  Blatant lie. Any elder doing so would be removed within 24 hours by the circuit overseer.
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  Candace Conti Settles

  by Nitty-Gritty in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  hot topic on topix seems to be candace conti settlement.

  but it's all quiet here.

  are you guys aware that your hero, who was not in it for the money but to change policies, settled without changing anything?

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  the girl next door

  Again nitty you are delusional.

  While parents are not prohibited by elders in going to the police, if the elders find the alleged abuser is not guilty from lack of a second witness, than the parents or reporters are manipulated through control tactics by the threat of disfellowshipping for slander.
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  Candace Conti Settles

  by Nitty-Gritty in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  hot topic on topix seems to be candace conti settlement.

  but it's all quiet here.

  are you guys aware that your hero, who was not in it for the money but to change policies, settled without changing anything?

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  the girl next door

  So Watchtower is the ultimate authority on who is considered and a "known abuser"?

  Nope. Not their call.

  That judgement should be reserved for law enforcement and prosecution.

  When Watchtower stonewalls and uses legal loopholes to avoid reporting to the police they will remain culpable and in malfeasance and will continue paying out millions in attorney's fees.
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  Candace Conti Settles

  by Nitty-Gritty in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  hot topic on topix seems to be candace conti settlement.

  but it's all quiet here.

  are you guys aware that your hero, who was not in it for the money but to change policies, settled without changing anything?

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  the girl next door

  The problem arises when Watchtower fails to alert and allow the Justice system to judge these criminals. Elders need to call the police immediately even in suspected cases of abuse. Not call headquarters. Call the police.

  Until they adjust policy in this regard they will continue to lose millions in a court of law.
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  Candace Conti Settles

  by Nitty-Gritty in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  hot topic on topix seems to be candace conti settlement.

  but it's all quiet here.

  are you guys aware that your hero, who was not in it for the money but to change policies, settled without changing anything?

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  the girl next door

  Nitty Gritty. You are mis informed and delusional. My daughter's abuser is in state prison(former elder) No two witnesses to the molestation. No proof other than her 29 pages of declaration.
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  Fun at The WT This Morning

  by OneFingerSalute in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so ofs was at the wt this morning, and on par.

  14 the question was, "what trust can a faithful christian whose relative is disfellowshipped have?".

  after awhile when no one else raised their hands ofs did, and was called on.. ofs commented, "one of jw can have the trust that god will lovingly give them the ability to uphold the disfellowshipping arrangement by totally shunning family members.".

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  Poe's Law at its finest.
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  Bethel Meeting at Regional Convention

  by MrTheocratic in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i decided to go to the bethel recruiting meeting yesterday to test out my theory that the organization is in decline.

  i assumed that if there is a general feeling of apathy by many in the org, then certainly it would be shown up by the lack of enthusiasm or zeal by many to sign up for bethel service.

  well let me say that based on what i observed, this organization is not going anywhere.

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  the girl next door

  Bethel meetings are always well attended because it foots the bill of making appearance for appearance's sake. If you don't attend you must be sinning and are a spiritual reject. It will cramp your opportunities to impress the opposite sex and their parents.

  This is nothing new or shocking or surprising to me. Less than .01% in attendance will actually end up in Bethel.
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  Looks like ABC New York got the okay.

  by truthseekeriam in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://appellatecases.courtinfo.ca.gov/search/case/dockets.cfm?dist=1&doc_id=2025979&doc_no=a136641.

  12/19/2014order filed.

  upon due consideration, the media request of applicant abc news to make a video recording of oral argument in the above-referenced appeal is granted.

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  ABC is permitted to use one video camera and one lighting system. They or any other party are not permitted to use any other recoding devices such as audio recorders or phones.
  Rule 1.150 (e)(8)
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  Just 2 questions regarding the U.S. law around sex abuse

  by joe134cd in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i just have 2 questions regarding the u.s law around sex abuse.. (1) in this country it is quite common for the events of a sex abuse trial, to have suppression orders placed on it.

  one i can think of was when the offender was given name suppression because to identify the abuser would also mean identifying the victim, so hence both were given name suppression.

  now with regard to the out of court settlements and gag orders by the watchtower, and yes i do realise that the wt would have the most to benefit by doing this.

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  the girl next door

  For a victim to be dragged through trial is horrific. Defense attorneys are ruthless. So yes many victims settle out of court to avoid the pain of trial. This also happens regularly in criminal court. You can not fault a victim for this choice. WT gets picked on in these cases because they are viewed as the bad guy. Also, WT doesn't just write out fat settlements. They argue and fight and threaten to get the victim to settle for as little as possible.

  Zalkin did nothing wrong in the Lopez case. WT chose to be in contempt. It would not make sense for Zalkin to follow any other procedure than what has found success.